If you want to discover your genetic history and where you came from... you’ve found the right place!


review of scientific and news articles on dna testing and popular genetics

Neanderthals in America

Tuesday, October 18, 2011

Yes, Virginia, there is a Neanderthal fossil record in America. And apparently a Neanderthal hybrid fossil record.

No genetics publication has put all the evidence together: the genetics establishment is still in denial about most things Neanderthal. The evidence is scattered and mostly unrecognized, but, in our opinion, conclusive and compulsive. Consider the following article:

Frank L'Engle Williams and Gail E. Krovitz, "Ontogenetic Migration of the Mental Foramen in Neanderthals and Modern Humans," Journal of Human Evolution 47/4 (Oct. 2004) 190-219. 

The mental foramen (literally "mind's little hole") is an anatomical trait very pronounced in Neanderthals, a small dimple in the lower jaw of the skull beneath the teeth, or mandible. It is found sporadically in humans, where it is classified as archaic. Among the places where it has been identified are the Oleniy Islands and Baltic region, Northwestern Russia in Cro-Magnon like Europoid and Mongoloid types, along with "large and massive" torus occipitalis or Anatolian bumps (Alexander Mongait, 1959; Marija Gimbutas, 1956); Bakhehisarai in the Crimea (Alexander Mongait, 1959); the Joman or Ainu of Japan (Carleton Stevens Coon, 1962); and the "race of giants" continually being unearthed in West Coast, Ohio Valley and New England archeological sites, caves and mounds.

Archaic giant skeletons with mental foramina, occipital bumps, double rows of teeth and other Neanderthal features are reported, in fact, all over the Americas. Fritz Zimmerman has gathered a lot of the evidence in a new book titled Nephilim Chronicles, of which a small excerpt was published in Ancient American magazine, issue 91, pp. 24-27. Here is one of the newspaper reports he cites:

Evening News (Ada, Oklahoma), November 8, 1912. PRIMITIVE MEN OF GIGANTIC STATURE.
Eleven skeletons of primitive men, with foreheads sloping directly back from the eyes and two rows of teeth in the front of the upper jaw, have been uncovered at Craigshill at Ellensburg, Washington. They were found about twenty feet below the surface, twenty feet back from the face of the slope, in a cement rock formation over which was a layer of shale. The rock was perfectly dry. The jawbones, which easily break, are so large that they will go around the face of a man today. The other bones are also much larger than those of the ordinary man. The femur is twenty inches long, indicating a man of eighty inches tall [6' 8"]. The teeth in front are worn almost down to the jawbones, due, it is believed, to eating uncooked foods and crushing substances with the teeth. The sloping skull shows an extreme low order of intelligence.

We note that the female mummy clutching a child known as The Thing on display at a roadside attraction on Interstate 10 north of Tombstone, Arizona, has a double row of teeth. It supposedly was one of three skeletons sold to the operator of the original site for $50 by a Chinese gentleman passing through. The Thing is discussed in several works by David Hatcher Childress. (My son and I paid our two bucks and saw it last Christmas on a road trip.)

Photo above:  Archaic skull from Oleniy Island studied by Marija Gimbutas among other archeologists, showing the position of the mental foramen, the result probably of Neanderthal interbreeding.

Photo below:  The Thing.


Kathryn Halliday commented on 19-Oct-2011 11:50 AM

Very interesting article. What caught my eye is the article from Ada, Oklahoma---where I was born and now live in my old age. It is the center, after the removel, of the Chickasaw Nation.

Fritz Zimmerman commented on 01-Feb-2012 11:38 AM

There are many cases of "archaic" type skulls that are associated with the Maritime Archaic who migrated to North America (by boat) from 7000 - 2000 BC. They eventually migrated in to the Great lakes region. These are a few of headlines of giant skeletons
with Neanderthal like skulls in the Great Lakes http://gianthumanskeletons.blogspot.com/2012/01/giant-human-skeletons-with-archaic.html This link will take you to headlines from the coastal regions, where more of these Neanderthal looking skulls were uncovered.

Anonymous commented on 02-May-2012 11:12 PM

Yes there is overwhelming evidence to support this im one of the rare people who have in my possession a skull showing brow ridge teeth leg bones and hundreds of tools. Drockhound texas

Chris L Lesley commented on 24-Nov-2013 07:58 AM

Anonymous, I sure would like to get a replica of that skull preserved and displayed in the GAWM Museum.
~Chris L Lesley

Please tell us what you think

Name, website, and email are optional; if we publish your comment, your name will be shown, and may be linked to your website if provided, but the email you enter will not be published.

Captcha Image

Recent Posts


Middle Ages Zionism New York Review of Books ethnic markers CODIS markers PNAS Science magazine X chromosome Texas A&M University Bill Tiffee myths Arizona andrew solomon ethics Isabel Allende Richard Lewontin haplogroup Z Johnny Depp INORA Peter Martyr North Carolina Roberta Estes Finnish people Henriette Mertz American history Denisovans Tifaneg Khazars Jewish genetics admixture Bureau of Indian Affairs Salt River Wendy Roth Gunnar Thompson Bradshaw Foundation Russia Population genetics Y chromosome DNA population genetics prehistoric art Svante Paabo cannibalism Irish Central Epigraphic Society First Peoples mental foramen Tintagel Kari Schroeder Bryan Sykes clinical chemistry Mark Thomas Kurgan Culture Elvis Presley DNA Native American DNA Test bloviators Irish DNA Ari Plost Nikola Tesla ISOGG Keros Ancient Giantns Who Ruled America African DNA cancer Sasquatch Cancer Genome Atlas Fritz Zimmerman Comanche Indians BBCNews Caucasian Elizabeth C. Hirschman Luca Pagani Arabia Monica Sanowar Cismaru palatal tori Harold Goodwin Acadians Cismar Melungeons Colin Renfrew French Canadians DNA databases Miguel Gonzalez Jack Goins Holocaust M. J. Harper methylation Celts Albert Einstein College of Medicine Jewish contribution to world literature genealogy epigenetics Michoacan Scientific American pheromones art history The Nation magazine Native American DNA Turkic DNA Irish history population isolates Pueblo Grande Museum Tom Martin Scroft Chromosomal Labs Bode Technology DNA Forums human leukocyte testing Patagonia Great Goddess Pomponia Graecina Bentley surname research George Starr-Bresette Marija Gimbutas Kate Wong Victor Hugo Israel Dienekes Anthropology Blog Henry IV Erika Chek Hayden Melba Ketchum Sorbs Barnard College archeology Cohen Modal Haplotype Secret History of the Cherokee Indians Michael Grant Colin Pitchfork Altai Turks polydactylism Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute Scotland health and medicine haplogroup M NPR Ukraine Lebanon family history statistics Michael Schwartz Patrick Henry giants private allele megapopulations haplogroup B BATWING Charlotte Harris Reese haplogroup R Donald N. Yates Jews and Muslims in British Colonial America Oxford Journal of Evolution Asiatic Fathers of America Kentucky Holocaust Database MHC Constantine Rafinesque genetic memory Neolithic Revolution Society for Crypto-Judaic Studies education Tennessee Algonquian Indians Black Dutch Khoisan aliyah Belgium Harry Ostrer National Health Laboratories Cajuns Akhenaten Tucson Wales Life Technologies Italy haplogroup X Gypsies DNA testing companies Theodore Steinberg Jim Bentley National Geographic Daily News David Cornish horizontal inheritance Ashkenazi Jews Eric Wayner Waynesboro Pennsylvania Elzina Grimwood Stephen Oppenheimer Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act European DNA Bode Technology haplogroup U Chris Tyler-Smith Pima Indians Grim Sleeper Penny Ferguson news Anglo-Saxons Hopi Indians Stone Age Richard Buckley IntegenX Richard III crypto-Jews Slovakia Philippa Langley genetics evolution breast cancer Monya Baker Phoenix bar mitzvah Chauvet cave paintings linguistics Maya Nature Communications ancient DNA autosomal DNA Choctaw Indians Germany Valparaiso University Amy Harmon Havasupai Indians El Castillo cave paintings single nucleotide polymorphism James Shoemaker King Arthur Jone Entine haplogroup L FDA Gregory Mendel Columbia University powwows Mexico Anne Marie Fine Cave art Early Jews and Muslims of England and Wales (book) Sizemore surname microsatellites genomics labs Chris Stringer DNA Fingerprint Test England Paleolithic Age Beringia EURO DNA Fingerprint Test Rush Limbaugh Zuni Indians Phoenicians Telltown Thuya New York Academy of Sciences Ziesmer, Zizmor Virginia genealogy Y chromosomal haplogroups Applied Epistemology District of Columbia Joseph Jacobs hominids Navajo Freemont Indians China Sinti Rafael Falk Jalisco Early Jews of England and Wales Roma People Tutankamun Peter Parham Moundbuilders Robinson Crusoe Melungeon Union Hohokam Indians mutation rate Zizmer mitochondrial DNA Bulgaria Stacy Schiff consanguinity familial Mediterranean fever climate change Abraham Lincoln Gila River GlobalFiler Greeks haplogroup J Science Daily, Genome Biol. Evol., Eran Elhaik, Khazarian Hypothesis, Rhineland Hypothesis origins of art Discover magazine When Scotland Was Jewish FBI Charles Darwin Terry Gross Arabic Genome Sciences Building Iran Old Souls in a New World Majorca Jews Rare Genes Current Anthropology Wikipedia Wendell Paulson DNA magazine Walter Plecker National Museum of Natural History Sam Kean Israel, Shlomo Sand Barack Obama Pueblo Indians DNA security haplogroup N Charles Perou Yates surname George van der Merwede FOX News Magdalenian culture Smithsonian Magazine occipital bun surnames Jewish GenWeb Daily News and Analysis William Byrd Carl Zimmer seafaring Mary Kugler Riane Eisler Indo-Europeans corn Washington D.C. Lab Corp medicine Bering Land Bridge Alabama forensics Hohokam ENFSI Cooper surname Etruscans North African DNA Cleopatra Louis XVI Henry VII Helladic art religion HapMap India Stony Creek Baptist Church B'nai Abraham Neanderthals Leicester Cherokee DNA far from the tree Rich Crankshaw immunology university of North Carolina at Chapel Hill DNA Fingerprint Test Nova Scotia Maronites John Butler Russell Belk Kari Carpenter Middle Eastern DNA hoaxes Britain Europe Bryony Jones Rutgers University haplogroup E Ron Janke research Anacostia Indians Sinaloa Ireland Clovis rapid DNA testing Nephilim, Fritz Zimmerman Austro-Hungary Smithsonian Institution Discovery Channel rock art Cornwall Ripan Malhi Stan Steiner French DNA Sarmatians 23andme Colima human migrations Phyllis Starnes Douglas Owsley American Journal of Human Genetics Austronesian, Filipinos, Australoid New Mexico Basques Solutreans University of Leicester Egyptians Muslims in American history Abenaki Indians Marie Cheng haplogroup T Chuetas race Mary Settegast AP Promega Jon Entine Melanesians Melungeon Movement Olmec Virginia DeMarce Nayarit phenotype Les Miserables Arizona State University Gravettian culture King Arthur, Tintagel, The Earliest Jews and Muslims of England and Wales haplogroup H Sonora Daniel Defoe anthropology London Nadia Abu El-Haj Horatio Cushman prehistory Sea Peoples human leukocyte antigens Melungeon Heritage Association Ananya Mandal ethnicity Nature Genetics Richard Dewhurst New York Times Harold Sterling Gladwin Hertfordshire genetic determinism Black Irish Kennewick Man peopling of the Americas history of science mummies Alec Jeffreys clan symbols Panther's Lodge Publishers Douglas Preston Timothy Bestor Romania Teresa Panther-Yates alleles Janet Lewis Crain Panther's Lodge Anasazi Asian DNA John Wilwol Bigfoot Phillipe Charlier Micmac Indians Shlomo Sand oncology N. Brent Kennedy Oxford Nanopore Normans Jewish novelists Lithuania Plato personal genomics Sizemore Indians