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Giants with Double-Rowed Teeth, Flattened Heads and Six Fingers

Saturday, October 13, 2012
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Were They Possibly Denisovan Hybrids?

The Cherokee called them the Moon People. The Utes and Paiutes spoke of a hideous race of cannibals ten feet tall living in caves. And the Choctaw also have an account of the race of giants that first colonized the Ohio Valley. 

From Old World Roots of the Cherokee, chapter 5, "America's Middle Ages," pp. 78-79, we read:

What kind of Indians lived in the territory the Choctaw and Chickasaw carved out for their new home? According to their traditions, reports Cushman, as confirmed by excavations of bones in Tennessee, it was a “race of white giants”:

[T]he tradition of the Choctaws . . . told of a race of giants that once inhabited the now State of Tennessee, and with whom their ancestors fought when they arrived in Mississippi in their migration from the west, doubtless Old Mexico. Their tradition states the Nahullo (race of giants [literally, wizards]) was of wonderful stature; but, as their tradition of the mastodon [which used to be found on the Great Plains], so this was also considered to be but a foolish fable, the creature of a wild imagination, when lo! Their exhumed bones again prove the truth of the Choctaws’ tradition (151).

These giants could have been Rafinesque’s Atlans.

Cushman then recounts the discovery in 1880 at a burial mound site near Plano, Texas, of human bones “of enormous size . . . the femoral bones being five inches longer than the ordinary length, and the jaw bones . . . so large as to slip over the face of a man with ease.” Cushman goes on to identify them with the older occupants of North America called Allegewi or Taligewi (Talegans). Many historians, moreover, speculate they were the builders of the Adena mounds.

As for the Chickasaw, Cushman notes that they have no record of their history before the colonial period, although it is assuredly "the same as the Choctaws, being one tribe and people until the division made by their two chiefs Chikasah and Chahtah many years after their arrival and location east of the Mississippi River" (p 358). Of the Natchez, Cushman records that they, "if tradition may be believed, also came from Mexico where they had lived for centuries" (p 440).

A story was told by the Comanches in 1857: 

Innumerable moons ago, a race of white men, ten feet high, and far more rich and powerful than any white people now living, here inhabited a large range of country, extending from the rising to the setting sun. Their fortifications crowned the summits of the mountains, protecting their populous cities situated in the intervening valleys. They excelled every other nation which was flourished, either before or since, in all manner of cunning handicraft—were brave and warlike—ruling over the land they had wrested from its ancient possessors with a high and haughty hand. Compared with them the palefaces of the present day were pygmies, in both art and arms. They drove the Indians from their homes, putting them to the sword, and occupying the valleys in which their fathers had dwelt before them since the world began. At length, in the height of their power and glory, when they remembered justice and mercy no more and became proud and lifted up, the Great Spirit descended from above, sweeping them with fire and deluge from the face of the earth. The mounds we [i.e. the speaker Chief Rolling Thunder and his Spanish listener] had seen on the tablelands were the remnants of their fortresses, and the crumbling ruins that surrounded us all that remained of a mighty city.[i]

The word Nahoolo or Nahullo “is now emphatically applied to the white race and no other . . . The Nahullo were of white complexion, according to Choctaw tradition, and were still an existing people at the time of the advent of the Choctaws to Mississippi,” concludes Cushman (p 153) . In agreement, the Indian trader Adair often refers to the Nani Ishtahoolo as departed white ghosts vested with spiritual powers whose descendants were priests and magicians. Their cries and magic spells could still be heard in the mounds like those at Ocmulgee.[ii] These references contribute to the suspicion that the “Indians” who preceded Asiatic tribes from Mexico were, as we would say today, Caucasian.

About exactly a year ago on this blog, we published a post about "Neanderthals in America," mentioning also the peculiar archaic skeleton that is now a roadside attraction in Arizona, called The Thing. In the meantime, we acquired a copy of Fritz Zimmerman's book, The Nephilim Chronicles, which reproduces over 300 historical accounts of Giant skeletons. Many are associated with the earliest mound sites in America, but Zimmerman's survey of this worldwide phenomenon ranges from the Hunter-Fisher People of northeast Europe and Red Paint People whose movements were circumpolar to the giants of the Bible, noted by the Babylonian Talmud as having double rows of teeth, and "Giants' Remains in the British Isles" (pp. 157-65).

Navajo legends speak of the Starnake People, a regal race of white giants endowed with mining technology who dominated the West, enslaved lesser tribes and had strongholds all through the Americas. They were either extinguished or "went back to the heavens." The name may be a corruption of the Biblical race known as Anakim (Num. 13:33, Deut. 1:28). The name Og (Hebrew "chief") appears to be characteristic (see Zimmerman, pp. 188-91). The ogham alphabet is attributed to this cultural founder. 

Certainly, many of the mound sites uncovered in the nineteenth century tell a story of constant warfare by incoming Asiatic tribes  against the giants occupying the land. One grisly scene showed thousands of skeletons, male, female and young heaped in a mass grave, with warriors' skulls pierced by arrows. It would appear that as these aboriginal inhabitants of the Ohio Valley were gradually displaced, some members of their society went over into the ranks of the new conquerors, bequeathing a strain of great stature still noticeable, for instance, in the Mobilian chief Tuscaloosa and DeSoto's Indian queen Cofitachiqui, both of whom were said to be seven feet tall.

We are struck by the following traits of this giant race or ethnic group from human prehistory:

  • Mother Goddess religion
  • Copper (not bronze) axes 
  • Polished slate tools including fishing plummets, which were apparently regarded as sacred
  • Belief that the Grandmother Moon was the repository of souls
  • Diet emphasizing shellfish (for which the double row of teeth probably was selected as an evolutionary advantage in their beachcomber origin out of Africa?)
  • Building of fish weirs in North American rivers to trap migrating eels
  • Certain vegetarian habits (wild rice, for instance)
  • Inscriptions on artifacts, especially pipes, often buried with the dead
  • Use of coal and petroleum
  • Weaving and looms
  • Knowledge of seafaring, mathematics and engineering, including canals and irrigation
  • Burying of a dog with a child to guard the latter in the afterlife
  • A language apparently Afro-Asiatic and close to Semitic tongues
  • Kingcraft:  nobles were buried in seated positions on thrones surrounded by a coterie of their retainers

When Denisovan Man was first discovered, we had just a fingerbone to go on. We can only extrapolate the look of the skull. Geneticists conjecture, however, that it was an Austronesian type. We suggest that a modern prize of science will belong to the geneticist who can derive ancient DNA to study and classify from the bones of giant hominids that are unavoidably plentiful in the archeological and mythological records of humankind. 

Maybe the owner of The Thing will allow researchers to borrow one of the femurs for laboratory analysis and measurement. If that's not possible, the Smithsonian, Carnegie Institute and dozens of local historical societies throughout the Midwest have basements and storage facilities brimming with these relics of American history.

Above:  Patagonian giants. 



   


[i] Nelson Lee, Three Years among the Camanches. Albany:  Baker Taylor, 1859) 194. See also Cyclone Covey, Calalus: A Roman Jewish Colony in America from the Time of Charlemagne Through Alfred the Great (New York:  Vantage) 144-45.

[ii] Adair 37. 

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How Did That Neanderthal DNA Get Into Me?

Thursday, August 23, 2012
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A new Cambridge University study claims that the 1-4% Neanderthal DNA in the average European is not the result of admixture or hybridization, as widely believed when the Neanderthal sequences were discovered in human DNA, but the signature of a remote split in hominid species in early Africa. The study is headlined "Humans, Neanderthals Did Not Have Babies" in Discovery News. According to the new model, Neanderthals died out 30,000 years ago in Europe and never had the opportunity to produce hybrid progeny with anatomically modern humans (Homo sapiens sapiens). 

But the new model is just that, a model, and proves nothing, say many critics of the explanation. Statistical programs can be set up to "prove" anything. The new model just proves that it could be a scenario that might have occurred in the dim human past. Not all possible scenarios are true, and in fact, many possible scenarios are unlikely . . . and well, not possible except in a statistical sense.

Essentially, the Cambridge study uses a conclusion to prove a hypothesis. It's supposed to work the other way around. And we thought Cambridge was the home of logicians!

Also, why are there no Neanderthals in Africa?

See our post "Most Humans Part Neanderthal"

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Were Solutreans in Ancient America Egyptians?

Tuesday, June 19, 2012
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Yes, according to Bill Tiffee, whose article on Solutreans in America will appear in volume 29 of the series Epigraphic Society Occasional Papers. Titled "Were Ancient Egyptians the Solutreans Who First Settled America?" the new study, he says, "looks at the possibility that the Solutreans who first settled America were from Egypt, and that the genetic marker X is found in the highest concentrations among the Druze (who migrated from Egypt 1,000 years ago)and the descendants of the Moundbuilder Native groups including the Sioux and Algonquin and possibly the Cherokee."

We have previously suggested that the Cherokee incorporate both Greek and Egyptian DNA. Chapter 3 of Donald Yates' new book Old World Roots of the Cherokee is devoted to the DNA story of the so-called "anomalous" Cherokee lines, including haplogroups T and X. 

Several prominent scholars have argued that Europeans known to archeologists as the Solutreans of France and Spain around 18,000 years ago were the first to settle the Americas. Tiffee examines the similarities between Solutrean and Clovis or Paleo-Indian stone technology and reconstructs the Solutrean culture in Egypt beginning 24,000 years ago (p. 119). He links ancient Egyptians with genetic marker E-M78, mitochondrial haplogroup X, Tula and the Spiro Complex mounds in Oklahoma, among other North American sites. He also discusses the Great Flood of about 10,000 years ago, the legends surrounding Osiris and the rise of agriculture in southern Turkey (Gobekli Tepe). 

"Perhaps," he concludes, "Egyptologists need to rethink their paradigms of ancient Egypt. And perhaps modern Native American descendants of the Moundbuilders, the Algonquin groups, Sioux, Cherokee, Chickasaw (and other Native cultures closely related to mound-building) need to reconsider where their most ancient ancestors came from (129)."

In DNA Consultants' Cherokee DNA study, "Anomalous Mitochondrial DNA Lineages in the Cherokee," as well as numerous blog posts since 2009, it was reported that haplogroups U, T, K, J, N, X and L are found in Cherokee descendants in frequencies mirroring those of Egypt. 

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Do You Have a Mental Foramen? You Might be Part Neanderthal

Thursday, November 10, 2011
A mental foramen is a small hole in the mandible whose purpose is to allow passage of nerves and vessels to the brain and probably also to relieve tension during chewing and gnawing. It has been identified as a sign of archaic humans, including Neanderthals. Do you have one?

I asked my dentist to look at my X rays on file and he confirmed I have a mental foramen. He has often told me I have "powerful" jaws. It is unclear whether there are normally two of them and what their typical positions are.

In a previous blog post, "Neanderthals in America," we discussed mental foramina (the plural of foramen), occipital bulges or bumps and other archaic skeletal traits. Melungeons seem to have many of these ancestral marks.

Do you? You might want to check with your dentist.

Studies show that Europeans have, on average, between 1 and 4 percent Neanderthal genes from an early out-of-Africa interbreeding period in the Middle East. Science has not decided to consider Neanderthals a separate species or sub-species in relation to H. sapiens sapiens (humans).

DNA Consultants offers an estimate of Neanderthal ancestry based on matches with other archaic humans called Neanderthal Index.

Line drawing of Neanderthal male ©DNA Consultants.



More information about Melungeons
Toward a Genetic Profile of Melungeons in Southern Appalachia
Melungeon Studies
Melungeon Match

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Anonymous commented on 27-Dec-2011 06:06 PM

Apparently everybody has two mental foramina, one on each jaw, but the position and size are different for different people.


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Neanderthals in America

Tuesday, October 18, 2011

Yes, Virginia, there is a Neanderthal fossil record in America. And apparently a Neanderthal hybrid fossil record.

No genetics publication has put all the evidence together: the genetics establishment is still in denial about most things Neanderthal. The evidence is scattered and mostly unrecognized, but, in our opinion, conclusive and compulsive. Consider the following article:

Frank L'Engle Williams and Gail E. Krovitz, "Ontogenetic Migration of the Mental Foramen in Neanderthals and Modern Humans," Journal of Human Evolution 47/4 (Oct. 2004) 190-219. 

The mental foramen (literally "mind's little hole") is an anatomical trait very pronounced in Neanderthals, a small dimple in the lower jaw of the skull beneath the teeth, or mandible. It is found sporadically in humans, where it is classified as archaic. Among the places where it has been identified are the Oleniy Islands and Baltic region, Northwestern Russia in Cro-Magnon like Europoid and Mongoloid types, along with "large and massive" torus occipitalis or Anatolian bumps (Alexander Mongait, 1959; Marija Gimbutas, 1956); Bakhehisarai in the Crimea (Alexander Mongait, 1959); the Joman or Ainu of Japan (Carleton Stevens Coon, 1962); and the "race of giants" continually being unearthed in West Coast, Ohio Valley and New England archeological sites, caves and mounds.

Archaic giant skeletons with mental foramina, occipital bumps, double rows of teeth and other Neanderthal features are reported, in fact, all over the Americas. Fritz Zimmerman has gathered a lot of the evidence in a new book titled Nephilim Chronicles, of which a small excerpt was published in Ancient American magazine, issue 91, pp. 24-27. Here is one of the newspaper reports he cites:

Evening News (Ada, Oklahoma), November 8, 1912. PRIMITIVE MEN OF GIGANTIC STATURE.
Eleven skeletons of primitive men, with foreheads sloping directly back from the eyes and two rows of teeth in the front of the upper jaw, have been uncovered at Craigshill at Ellensburg, Washington. They were found about twenty feet below the surface, twenty feet back from the face of the slope, in a cement rock formation over which was a layer of shale. The rock was perfectly dry. The jawbones, which easily break, are so large that they will go around the face of a man today. The other bones are also much larger than those of the ordinary man. The femur is twenty inches long, indicating a man of eighty inches tall [6' 8"]. The teeth in front are worn almost down to the jawbones, due, it is believed, to eating uncooked foods and crushing substances with the teeth. The sloping skull shows an extreme low order of intelligence.

We note that the female mummy clutching a child known as The Thing on display at a roadside attraction on Interstate 10 north of Tombstone, Arizona, has a double row of teeth. It supposedly was one of three skeletons sold to the operator of the original site for $50 by a Chinese gentleman passing through. The Thing is discussed in several works by David Hatcher Childress. (My son and I paid our two bucks and saw it last Christmas on a road trip.)

Photo above:  Archaic skull from Oleniy Island studied by Marija Gimbutas among other archeologists, showing the position of the mental foramen, the result probably of Neanderthal interbreeding.

Photo below:  The Thing.






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Kathryn Halliday commented on 19-Oct-2011 11:50 AM

Very interesting article. What caught my eye is the article from Ada, Oklahoma---where I was born and now live in my old age. It is the center, after the removel, of the Chickasaw Nation.

Fritz Zimmerman commented on 01-Feb-2012 11:38 AM

There are many cases of "archaic" type skulls that are associated with the Maritime Archaic who migrated to North America (by boat) from 7000 - 2000 BC. They eventually migrated in to the Great lakes region. These are a few of headlines of giant skeletons
with Neanderthal like skulls in the Great Lakes http://gianthumanskeletons.blogspot.com/2012/01/giant-human-skeletons-with-archaic.html This link will take you to headlines from the coastal regions, where more of these Neanderthal looking skulls were uncovered.
http://gianthumanskeletons.blogspot.com/2012/01/giant-human-skeletons-headlines.html

Anonymous commented on 02-May-2012 11:12 PM

Yes there is overwhelming evidence to support this im one of the rare people who have in my possession a skull showing brow ridge teeth leg bones and hundreds of tools. Drockhound texas


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Rock Art in the Stone Age, Again

Thursday, October 06, 2011

Both the caves of Lascaux (Dordogne, France) and Altamira (Cantabria, Spain) are World Heritage Sites, but scientists are pushing that they remain closed to the public for a number of reasons. Read "Paleolithic Art in Peril" in this week's Science magazine.

In related news, INORA has announced an International Congress on Archaeology and Rock Art, La Paz, Bolivia, June 25-29, 2012. Many of the sessions will address the scientific study of rock art, as well as its management and conservation. Recent issues have brought to light important surveys and studies of rock art where most people are unaware it exists, including Mongolia, Morocco and the Amazon.

In 2010, the UNESCO list of World Heritage sites included 890 sites registered over its entire existence but only 36 of them are rock art sites.

The Altamira, Lascaux and other Paleolithic sites are of outstanding universal value for all humankind. Surely, there can be an accommodation between the scientists and the people so both interests can be satisfied.

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Denisovans Join Neanderthals as Archaic Race That Interbred with Modern Humans

Monday, January 24, 2011
Human origins: Shadows of early migrations

By Carlos D. Bustamante & Brenna M. Henn


Nature Volume: 468, Pages:1044–1045
Date published:(23 December 2010) DOI:doi:10.1038/4681044a
Published online22 December 2010

Analysis of ancient nuclear DNA, recovered from 40,000-year-old remains in the Denisova Cave, Siberia, hints at the multifaceted interaction of human populations following their migration out of Africa.

The new discipline of palaeogenetics is delivering increasing dividends, the latest news coming from Reich, Pääbo and colleagues on page 1053 of this issue. The authors' analysis of nuclear DNA of a human-like finger bone, found in Denisova Cave in southern Siberia, points towards a complex model of migration and colonization after anatomically modern humans moved out of Africa some 50,000–60,000 years ago.

Ever since 1925, when Raymond Dart's report of the first Australopithecus skull in southern Africa upended Victorian views of human origins, there has been debate over whether our species arose only once and spread throughout the world, replacing all extant species of Homo, or whether our ancestors interbred with the other populations and subspecies. The most extreme version of the 'candelabra' model of human origins — according to which human species arose multiple times independently of our Homo ergaster ancestors — has been largely discounted.

But it has been difficult to assess more nuanced models, such as the possibility of genetic exchange with some archaic populations, including Neanderthals, and now perhaps ancient Siberians. Until recently, genetic data and interpretation of the fossil record seemed to favour a complete-replacement model, in which all human species trace all of their genetic ancestry to a single origin in one or more African populations of moderate size some 200,000 years ago2, 3, 4, 5. However, the Denisovan nuclear genome sequence, along with that of Homo neanderthalensis published by some of the same authors6, suggest that the out-of-Africa population history of Homo sapiens is probably much more intertwined than previously thought, with more intertwining in some parts of the world than others.

Read more and follow discussion at Nature.

Triangles and circles respectively represent sampling locations of Neanderthal remains and of present-day human genomes. The blue arrows indicate generally accepted major migrations of anatomically modern humans, following their departure from Africa 50,000–60,000 years ago. At this time, there were two primary archaic species in Eurasia, Neanderthals and Homo erectus; Reich, Pääbo and co-workerssuggest that a third group was also present, represented by the ancient Denisovan genome. From ancient DNA, they identify additional putative events involving two episodes of limited gene flow: first, genetic admixture from Neanderthals to modern humans, shortly after the exit from Africa; second, subsequent admixture with the archaic population exemplified by the nuclear DNA extracted from the Denisova finger bone. This second event seems to affect only the ancestors of present-day Melanesians, who are thought to have colonized Papua New Guinea some 45,000 years ago. African populations, both past and present, are genetically highly diverse, as indicated by the multiple labels.

See also "New Hominin Probably Explains Distinctiveness of Melanesians"


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Haplogroup N in Europe, Asia Minor and American Southwest

Saturday, January 01, 2011

And Now in the Cherokee...

Haplogroup N1a became prominent in genetics literature when Wolfgang Haak et al.'s studies on 7500 year old skeletons in Central Europe revealed that 25% of the Neolithic European population might have belonged to this lineage. The skeletons were found to be members of the Linear Pottery Culture (LBK ware) which is credited with being the first farming culture in Central Europe.


7,000 Year-Old Linearbandkeramik (LBK ware) from Stone Age Germany.

The study was a major development in the debate on the origin of European populations, since Haak et al. argued that "The discovery of mitochondrial type N1a in Central European Neolithic skeletons at a high frequency enabled us to answer the question of whether the modern population is maternally descended from the early farmers instead of addressing the traditional question of the origin of early European farmers."

Neolithic Revolution
Two competing scenarios exist for the spread of the Neolithic from the Near East to Europe:
  1. Demic diffusion (in which farming is brought by farmers), for example Renfrew's NDT - Anatolian hypothesis
  2. Cultural diffusion (in which farming is spread by the passage of ideas), which is the assumption in Alinei's Paleolithic Continuity Theory.

The study's authors concluded: "Our finding lends weight to a proposed Paleolithic ancestry for modern Europeans."

N currently appears in only .18%-.2% of regional populations. It is widely distributed throughout Eurasia and Northern Africa and is divided into the European, Central Asian, and African/South Asian branches based on specific genetic markers. Exact origins and migration patterns of this haplogroup are still unknown and a subject of some debate.

Although not one of the classic Native American lineages (A, B, C, D, and X -- Schurr), N has been identified in the ancient Southwest in the Fremont Culture centered in Utah. It is one of the Middle Eastern lineages that appear in the Cherokee and other Indians; see DNA Consultants Blog, “Anomalous Mitochondrial DNA Lineages in the Cherokee”. Most investigators attribute this phenomenon to recent European admixture. But such haplotypes  if only instanced in North America without exact Old World matches could just as well be considered Native American.

It has been suggested that N is also characteristic of the Sea Peoples, who may have traveled to the American Southwest in antiquity.

Cherokee or Saponi Wedding Dish from Southwest Virginia in author's possession is glazed black, the color of the Earth Mother, and marked with the "tri-line" signifying the Triple Goddess's power of increase and plenty and rule over all life. The style of pottery is similar to Linearbandkeramik (LBK) ware. This is the female dish of a matched pair. The slightly larger male dish is marked with four lines on each handle. They were used to share food in a wedding or bonding ceremony.

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Paul commented on 03-Jan-2011 01:02 PM

It's my experience that people practicing their ideas travel much farther than ideas alone. Especially since we are talking about pre-writing cultures. It would make sense that the incoming farmers would not only pass on their farming techniques but also their genetic traits.


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New Hominin Probably Explains Distinctiveness of Melanesians

Wednesday, December 22, 2010
Genetic history of an archaic hominin group from Denisova Cave in Siberia

By David Reich et al.
Nature 468: 1053-60.
Published online
22 December 2010
Abstract

Using DNA extracted from a finger bone found in Denisova Cave in southern Siberia, we have sequenced the genome of an archaic hominin to about 1.9-fold coverage. This individual is from a group that shares a common origin with Neanderthals. This population was not involved in the putative gene flow from Neanderthals into Eurasians; however, the data suggest that it contributed 4–6% of its genetic material to the genomes of present-day Melanesians. We designate this hominin population ‘Denisovans’ and suggest that it may have been widespread in Asia during the Late Pleistocene epoch. A tooth found in Denisova Cave carries a mitochondrial genome highly similar to that of the finger bone. This tooth shares no derived morphological features with Neanderthals or modern humans, further indicating that Denisovans have an evolutionary history distinct from Neanderthals and modern humans.

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Back to the Drawing Board on Post-Ice Age Refugiums

Wednesday, December 15, 2010

Using mitochondrial DNA to test the hypothesis of a European post-glacial human recolonization from the Franco-Cantabrian refuge

O García1,4, R Fregel2,4, J M Larruga2, V Álvarez3, I Yurrebaso1, V M Cabrera2 and A M González2

  1. 1Basque Country Forensic Genetics Laboratory, Erandio, Bizkaia, Spain
  2. 2Área de Genética, Departamento de Parasitología, Ecología y Genética, Facultad de Biología, Universidad de La Laguna (ULL), La Laguna, Tenerife, Spain
  3. 3Unidad de Genética, Hospital Universitario Central de Asturias, Oviedo, Asturias, Spain
Received 1 December 2009; Revised 23 February 2010; Accepted 18 March 2010; Published online 21 April 2010.

Abstract

It has been proposed that the distribution patterns and coalescence ages found in Europeans for mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) haplogroups V, H1 and H3 are the result of a post-glacial expansion from a Franco-Cantabrian refuge that recolonized central and northern areas. In contrast, in this refined mtDNA study of the Cantabrian Cornice that contributes 413 partial and 9 complete new mtDNA sequences, including a large Basque sample and a sample of Asturians, no experimental evidence was found to support the human refuge-expansion theory. In fact, all measures of gene diversity point to the Cantabrian Cornice in general and the Basques in particular, as less polymorphic for V, H1 and H3 than other southern regions in Iberia or in Central Europe. Genetic distances show the Cantabrian Cornice is a very heterogeneous region with significant local differences. The analysis of several minor subhaplogroups, based on complete sequences, also suggests different focal expansions over a local and peninsular range that did not affect continental Europe. Furthermore, all detected clinal trends show stronger longitudinal than latitudinal profiles. In Northern Iberia, it seems that the highest diversity values for some haplogroups with Mesolithic coalescence ages are centred on the Mediterranean side, including Catalonia and South-eastern France.

Mitochondrial testing specialists better get busy revising their haplogroup theories! Another Western European, Atlantic-facing prejudice has been disproved.

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